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For this question to resolve positively, at least two things would need to happen:

  1. The Council announces new sanctions before 31 July 2022, and
  2. Those sanctions include restricting access to cloud services.

I think both of those steps are pretty unlikely. 

On the sanctions:

  • The timeline is pretty tight. Negotiations about a new package of sanctions likely only started after 20 June [1]. As of 4 July, no substantial progress seems to have been made [2]. Also, it's likely that the effective deadline is actually before 31 July because of the summer break. I couldn't find specific information about the start of the summer break for the Council, only that there will be a break [3] and that the Parliament's break starts on 25 July [4]. It's reasonable to assume that this coincides with the Council's break
  • In addition, there is resistance from within, with Hungary explicitly against further sanctions [5].
  • Given that the war has shifted to a more drawn-out phase, there is likely less pressure in general to agree on further sanctions, too.

All in all, I think there isn't more than a 20% chance that additional sanctions will be announced before the end of the month.

On cloud services:

  • Apart from the initial, now redacted press release, I haven't found any reference to possible sanctions on cloud services. I think this at least suggests that cloud services aren't a super hotly dicussed topic. 
  • In addition, the initial Reuters article suggests that implementing sanctions on cloud services is actually pretty difficult because those services are mostly provided by U.S. compaies. This decreases the likelihood further that such sanctions will be announced this month.

All in all, I think it's fair to assume that there isn't more than again a 20% chance that a possible 7th package will actually contain cloud services.

This leads me to a combined estimate of 4%.

[1]: https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/poland-to-appeal-for-seventh-package-of-russian-sanctions/
[2]: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3521894-eu-has-not-yet-agreed-on-seventh-package-of-sanctions-against-russia-swedish-pm.html
[3]: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2022)730336
[4]: https://www.pubaffairsbruxelles.eu/eu-institution-news/european-parliament-summer-recess/
[5]: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/no-more-eu-sanctions-russia-needed-negotiations-better-option-hungary-2022-06-23/

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The main reason I could be wrong is that the war escalates somehow and the EU feels more pressure to impose additional sanctions. While this doesn't immediately increase the likelihood of sanctions on cloud services, I'd update upwards in such a scenario. 

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Update to follow market conditions again.

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A very fast resolution of the Ukraine conflict; another sort of arrangement to protect gas deliveries 

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Updating after roll-over of question. Also, reducing tail risks quite a but after some sort of stability seems ot have returned to gas markets (although I don't really understand why)

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I consider this very unlikely - it would essentially mean the start of WW3, which Russia can't win. I consider the start of WW3 in the next year to be around ~2% right now, strongly informed by [1]. There might be some fringe scenarios of accidents escalating or Russia doing some increadibly stupid things, but all in all this simply seems very unlikely. I'll do a more elaborate analysis of this question in future weeks if I find the time.

[1]: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/KRFXjCqqfGQAYirm5/samotsvety-nuclear-risk-forecasts-march-2022

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6% (-9%)
Yes, 25+ in Georgia, but not in Moldova
56% (+21%)
Yes, 25+ in Moldova, but not in Georgia
16% (+1%)
Yes, 25+ in Georgia and 25+ in Moldova
22% (-13%)
No, 25+ in neither Georgia nor Moldova

I spoke to an acquaintance of mine who works in EU foreign policy ~2 weeks ago about this question. Their take was:

The risk of the conflict extending to Georgia is low because

  • The redeployment of Russian troops from South Ossetia to Ukraine [1] is actually difficult to reverse on medium timelines. This suggests that the withdrawal is a credible signal of de-escalation there
  • With the progressing depletion of the Russian military, the war will trend towards lower-tech equipment [10,11], which makes it even more difficult to quickly replenish troops in Georgia. I think this is somewhat corroborated by the new Russian offensive in the Donbas.
  • The withdrawal of troops from the Azeri / Armenian theatre [12] also suggests that there is a pivot away from the areas which are further away from Ukraine
  • They thought it overall unlikely that Georgia would intervene if South Ossetia tried to secede
  • Georgia is probably used as a major route to evade sanctions [2] and Russia wouldn’t want to jeopardise that

The risk of conflict in Moldova is harder to evaluate

  • It depends a lot on Russian success on the southern front
  • The Russian troops in Transnistria are badly equipped [3], making it less likely that they will be used for a pincer, which also decreases the chance that Moldova gets drawn into the conflict.
  • It’s pretty hard for Russia to get new equipment to Transnistria (except through Ukraine)
  • It’s plausible that Putin will use the annexation of Transitria as an “off-ramp” to the conflict, i.e. a more easily achievable success he could use to claim some kind of victory; however, this argument is less persuasive than it looks because my acquaintance thinks that spring of last year is too little time for this scenario to actively play out
  • The fact that Russia struggles to get Belarus [4] involved in the war lowers the likelihood that it will be more successful with activating pro-Russian elements in Transnistria
  • But if Russia is successful in Ukraine, the Russian narrative of protecting the integrity of the Russian people suggests that it will take the conflict to Moldova next

In addition to the above, the Moldovan / Transnistrian side of the conflict is heating up.

  • Transnistria reported multiple explosions last week [5,6]
  • As a response, they have mobilised their adult male population as military reserves [7]
  • A few days ago, a Russian general alluded to plans to annex Transnistria after a landbridge was established [8]. This kind of confirms earlier indications from a presentation by Lukashenko that there are plans from the Russian side in this direction [9].

All of this makes it much more likely in my view that the conflict will spill over to Moldova

The above moves me to update away from Georgia being drawn into the conflict, down to 22%. For Moldova, I’m updating my probability upwards, to 72% due to the recent incidents. If tensions in Moldova subside again, I’ll move down again, given that Russia’s advance on the southern front doesn’t seem to go very well.

The above yields 22% for “neither”, 56% for “Moldova only”, 16% for “both, and 6% for “Georgia only”

[1]: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3443537-russia-redeploys-troops-from-occupied-territories-of-georgia-to-ukraine.html

[2]: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/russian-war-report-ukraine-accuses-georgia-of-allowing-russia-to-smuggle-but-lacks-evidence/

[3]: https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/03/15/expired-arms-tepid-fighters-russian-ally-transnistria-may-have-little-to-offer-for-putins-war/

[4]: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/belarusalert/wily-belarus-dictator-sees-putins-war-as-an-opportunity-to-end-his-isolation/

[5]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/29/tensions-high-on-borders-of-moscow-backed-transnistria-region

[6]: https://theconversation.com/4-things-to-know-about-moldova-and-transnistria-and-why-russias-war-may-spread-beyond-ukraine-to-reach-them-soon-182030

[7]: https://balkaninsight.com/2022/04/28/moldovas-breakaway-transnistria-orders-general-mobilisation/

[8]: https://www.axios.com/moldova-deep-concern-russian-general-comments-9e6e2e26-7280-4020-9503-e0a3c4079b83.html

[9]: https://www.statecraft.co.in/article/putin-ally-lukashenko-unintentionally-reveals-russia-s-plans-to-invade-moldova

[10]: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/22/russia-hypersonic-missiles-low-stockpile-00019358

[11]: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/even-with-sanctions-russia-can-afford-feed-its-war-machine-2022-04-12/

[12]: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-13


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